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Princess Celestia Defeats Nightmare Moon by 90Sigma Princess Celestia Defeats Nightmare Moon by 90Sigma
"So, it is the night you desire so badly, is it? If I can't sway your opinion, I can at least protect our subjects. Perhaps the night is where you should go."
"Do you really think that me,... the ruler of the night... could be held... by the night sky?"
"It matters not. What does matter, is that for now, there will be peace."
"Mark my words, Celestia... the stars will aid my escape. ...I will return... stronger than before."
"Farewell, Nightmare Moon."
"You aren't going... to say 'Farewell, Luna'?"
"No. My real sister will return. You, however, are not Luna. You will not return."
"You wouldn't say goodbye... to me, would you, Celestia? You don't care... about me. That's why... Nightmare Moon exists. You don't fix... the problems you create. You make them disappear... Discord... Sombra... even your own sister. I hate you, Celestia. I hate you. I don't care how long... it takes. When I return..."


In the story that Twilight is reading, Celestia doesn't have a crown and necklace until after she banishes Nightmare Moon. The tiara she is wearing is the Element of Magic, which she is depicted using in the story to banish Nightmare. The idea of using the Elements of Harmony to banish a sister seems completely contrary to their name to me.
This image also get the honour of the most number of export errors in a single image to date.

Reuse: You are not allowed to reuse this image without permission. If you post it on another site, I ask that you include a link back here.

The Nightmare Moon and Princess Celestia characters and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic are the property of Lauren Faust and/or Hasbro and/or others.
Thanks to NightmareMoonS and Skylark-Torch for feedback while I was creating this.
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:icondabomb303:
DaBomb303 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014
What is the story?
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Colinessa Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014
OMG GIVE ME DA LINK TO DAT STORY
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arstylover109 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014
i thought celestia had a pink mane... O_O
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:iconbluemacaw11:
bluemacaw11 Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2015  New Deviant Student Digital Artist
me too well when Celestia sent Luna to the moon
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mlpandlpsprincess Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013  Hobbyist
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Hanisahp Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I like this one
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AMTRAK Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013
Good one here.
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SilverScarlet99 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I love the older versions of the elements of harmony
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DeadlyCynder Featured By Owner May 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
can I make a papercut of this?
E.g. [link]
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:icon90sigma:
90Sigma Featured By Owner May 28, 2013
As long as it's for personal use only and you do not sell it, then that is OK.
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DeadlyCynder Featured By Owner May 29, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank You!! :dance:
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sodanyan40 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
TO THE MOOOOON! oh wai-*poof*
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KatyTheDog Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013  Student Artist
poor luna, having to go to the moon cause of nightmare moon
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dudebladeX Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012   General Artist
i'm still saying that NIGHTMARE MOON SHALL RETURN!!!!
*dun dun duuuu!*
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:icon90sigma:
90Sigma Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
It wouldn't surprise me if we see her again at some stage. Even if only some kind of practical joke by Luna.
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dudebladeX Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012   General Artist
hmmm....
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Rickbeast Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
I was fully expecting Luna to become evil again the in season 3 premier. We all know that didn't happen
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PrincessLuna25 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
it`s awesome!!!
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90Sigma Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Thank you.
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DarkShadowguardian Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
Is awsome.
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:icon90sigma:
90Sigma Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Thank you.
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DarkShadowguardian Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
Nice work. <3
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DarkShadowguardian Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
They are badly hurt its was a hard fight.
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MolestiaIsReady Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
"'No matter how you think Luna became Nightmare, this scene is the end of the story. Luna is doomed to fall from grace and be banished by her sister to the moon for a thousand years.'
Yes, but how the scene is depicted in changes and expands its meaning considerably. Your Celestia vs. NMM depictions say a lot about your overall attitude towards Celestia."
I posted that on one of your journals and you wanted me to explain some more, but I felt it more relevant to post here so...

For one, you put Celestia above NMM, looking down on her like Celestia is damning somepony she can just stop. As we've seen in canon, they've never had an actual physical conflict that weakened the being they're trying to stop before using the Elements. But, why would they? Activate the Elements and the trouble ends.

For two, Celestia seems to have control over the situation so why would she even need the Elements? It was like she's just rubbing it in.

For three, It seems to me like Celestia had conscious control (this is factoring the story in) over the Elements and what they do because they are depicted as activated because she said farewell, like she knew that she would be banished when she activates the Elements. She somehow knows her own sister will return, but when handed the most powerful tool imaginable to cut out the middle man she doesn't use it in such a manor? Depicting Celestia with a bizarre level of future foresight is a great way to make that dialogue feel real, but it also does damage to this piece.

For four, Luna and NMM are one in the same in this depiction so it isn't NMM laying into Celestia in this piece, it's Luna. It sounds like Luna hates Celestia, and that's quite possibly the largest flaw in this piece. Even in your depiction you say, "the idea of using the Elements of Harmony to banish a sister seems completely contrary to their name to me." You consider NMM to be Celestia's sister, to be Luna and that's the biggest problem with this piece and the most telling part about it. No matter how you spin the scenario, NMM was a twisted perversion of Luna, a complete 180 in personality. Nothing about NMM is Luna. Not her name, not her voice, not her crown and most certainly not her actions.

Also, Luna gets the last word and you're making a clear point, that Celestia doesn't fix problems. This might have been chosen for the dramatic cut off, or it might've been chosen because you wouldn't like to admit that Discord, Sombra and NMM are three incredibly powerful beings of incredible evil that couldn't be "fixed," NMM being the obvious exception because she's a plot device. If Celestia had the chance to just "fix" her sister, do you think she would've banished her sister? Alternatively, you are strategically doing this to show just how deluded in her anger Luna had become, that she was ranting and raving and attacking anyone just because she was so teeming with anger. An "oh how the mighty have fallen" sort of moment.



I'd say the underlying point is there, that you think Celestia made the wrong choice and/or chose to punish her sister but that's a little too decisive. For now its the vibe i've seen/felt from the comments you've made and works you've posted, nothing more. Later, i'll come back to this and do some countering.

But what do I know, it's just a thought. A picture is worth a thousand words. What you can contain in an artwork of one page and in an essay of one page don't compare. Unnecessary meanings and interpretations that aren't in line with how you interpret your work are always a reality. I believe that it's impossible to make art without saying more than what you meant.






"Due to the nature of this scene, you are reminded you are not allowed to reuse anything I do for violent / blood and gore purposes."
Kind of ironic given how violent the nature of the scene you just made is > >.
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90Sigma Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
I think you might be reading into this too much. :) Don't take what I do too seriously.

#1: That wasn't intentional. The look on Celestia was supposed to be more that of regret than anything else. Alternatively: Consider whether or not she had just called the elements to her.
#2: At the moment, yes.
#3: "Using the magic of the Elements of Harmony, she defeated her younger sister and banished her permanently in the moon." (Emphasis mine.) Celestia later says she too saw the signs of Nightmare's return.
#4: And if I keep Luna and Nightmare separate, I get criticised for that too. :)
Luna does hate Celestia (well, implied anyway). "...the bitterness in the young one’s heart had transformed her into a wicked mare of darkness."
#5: It was cut off. Originally it read "When I return... you will pay." And this is Nightmare. She'll say whatever she wants. The idea that Discord and Sombra were Celestia's 'problems' were just made up.

Yes, I feel Celestia made the wrong choice, but that's both irrelevant to the image and anything else I do.

Perhaps the reuse statement is ironic (hypocritical?), but my definition of violent means actual depictions of attacking, visible wounds and so on.
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MolestiaIsReady Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
Creation begets analysis and believe me, i'd much rather not.

3) But when did she know her sister would return?
How exactly do you know the two events are mutually exclusive?
Do you think they're mutually exclusive?

4) Largely because none of the two biggest headcanons for Luna has NMM as a an entirely separate stand alone entity. To suggest that Luna and NMM are separate stand alone beings is going to earn some anger from most everyone in the community for missing the boat.

N/A

There are clearly visible wounds in this image > <.
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90Sigma Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
#3: If I remember correctly, Lauren said that Celestia foresaw the whole 1000 years thing and knew Twilight would be able to save her sister.
I'm not sure what you're referring to re: mutually exclusive.

Visible wounds would be red. These are intended to markings as they are on Cadance.
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Astaenes Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2013
Actually, that's not true. What Lauren said was that at the time, there was no way to save Luna from NMM so Celestia had to banish her. Lauren never got further with the story than that. So why it took thousand years is all up for grabs, but I don't recall Lauren ever staying Celestia knew about the 1000 years and Twilight. Heck, foresight has never even been a power any pony in the show has been even hinted at having. Aside from Pinkie Pie, to some extent.
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MolestiaIsReady Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
"I'm not sure what you're referring to re: mutually exclusive."
Do you think Celestia banishing NMM and Celestia defeating NMM are two separate events?
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:icon90sigma:
90Sigma Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Yes.
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:iconmolestiaisready:
MolestiaIsReady Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
"The idea of using the Elements of Harmony to banish a sister seems completely contrary to their name to me."
Which is why it was a one time thing. Celestia lost control over the Elements of Harmony some time after that event because her relationship with her sister had dissolved so, its brought up as Twilight asks why Celestia and Luna's stone imprisonment of Discord has faded/why she doesn't use them again.
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90Sigma Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
I'll have to double-check. I don't remember that. :/
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:iconmolestiaisready:
MolestiaIsReady Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
Check a couple minutes in to the first part of the Return of Harmony.
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flyingcheese143 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
Are you saying that the Royal Pony Sisters knew Discord and Sombra?
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:icon90sigma:
90Sigma Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
Of course - they were the ones that transformed Discord into a statue and Sombra into a shadow.
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flyingcheese143 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
Well, yeah, but I meant do you think they were friends?
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:icon90sigma:
90Sigma Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
Back before Luna's banishment? I don't know...
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DarkShadowguardian Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
They are sisters of course they are friends.
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AmrasFelagund Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
*teardrop*
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Emperordaniel Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
I love all these little snippets of conversation you put at the end of your pictures; they make them and the characters in them seem more real. I like that little reference to Sombra you slipped in here, as well. :D
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:icon90sigma:
90Sigma Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
Sometimes the backstory is the thing that inspires me to finish the image, just so I can share it as well.
Sombra was a late addition that fit in nicely. :)
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S0GGY-D0GGY Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
Elements OP, plz nerf...
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DeadCobra Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
Great
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:icon90sigma:
90Sigma Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
Thank you.
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Fascist-Templar Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
Yay! Victory for the Sun! :D
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